Comments on: “Becoming EU-sceptic”

By: M.G. in Progress

M.G. in Progress — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:49:00 +0000

“The EU is the project of power games, mostly between old, worn-out men who try to compare the length of their penises instead of caring for the interests of the continent. In one of these contests, an old Pole now has apparently won the EP presidency over an old Italian guy.”

I cannot but agree more particularly referring to Italian Prime Minister and sex attributes…
I tend to be also a europhile EU-skeptic particularly having worked several years for EU institutions. Nobody seems interested in getting the machine to work properly and institutionally and to have sound financial management. Then they wonder why the turnout is low at elections. Who cares?
There is a nice example of europhile EU-skeptic: MEP Marta Andreasen. She was chief accountant and whistle blower in the EU Commission, has won out in the European elections to become an MEP representing Britain for the UK Independence Party which is more than eurosceptic…

By: European Union at a Crossroads | Entangled Alliances

European Union at a Crossroads | Entangled Alliances — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:32:42 +0000

[...] the EU actually in a crisis? Nosemonkey reacting to a fellow blogger’s conversion to Euroscepticism had this to say: I know how he [...]

By: It’s hard to love the EU « Amused Cynicism

It’s hard to love the EU « Amused Cynicism — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:36:45 +0000

[...] by cabalamat on 2009-Jun-21 Nosemonkey thinks it’s hard to love the EU: This is a vital, fundamental problem that the EU seems repeatedly unable to address – it is [...]

By: citizen of Europe

citizen of Europe — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:16:58 +0000

I have been thinking for already a good time that current shape of European “Union” is a blind pass and that it is impossible to proceed further this way of European “unification”. Present intergovernmental treaties have no future, they have to be abandoned. The true unification and democracy need it.

By: KPM

KPM — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:51:13 +0000

And there is a fourth breed, those who think the EU should be powerful, but where everything is decided by the three or four major countries inside the closed doors of the Council, with the Commission being the executant and the Parliament a group of fools whose job is to entertain the people. Their names are Sarkozy, Merkel and Barroso.

By: Valéry-Xavier

Valéry-Xavier — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:22:54 +0000

I like to think, as far as I am concerned, that there are three, and not two sides, in this debate : it is not the pro-EU vs anti-EU but the nationalists / the europhiles / the federalists. The problem is none of them will call themselves that way.

The nationalists are those who believe either that there should be no EU at all or that it should be transformed into something unsignifiant where the Europan Council should do everything.

The federalists are those who whant to transforme the Union into a genuine international democracy and grant it some power where needed as well as the means necesary to act properly.

The europhiles are those who claim to support more or less the European Union as far as it stays as it is now with weak institutions. This is the view of the present heads of governements of the Union. Reform is ok as long as it remains marginally significant (such as the mediocre Lisbon treaty).

The problem is, of course, that those europhiles from the establishment are actually weakening the pro-european stance by impersonnating it and by refusing to solve its defaults. As long as the EU remains as it is now without much efforts to improve it, it fuels eurosceptism.