Comments on: Mandelson and EU openness http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/ In search of a European identity Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:16:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Robin http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-59623 Robin Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:01:06 +0000 http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=1858#comment-59623 Just me, or the rest of the population ? Just me, or the rest of the population ?

]]> By: Nosemonkey http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-59536 Nosemonkey Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:54:42 +0000 http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=1858#comment-59536 Ah, but evidently "my side" hasn't done a good enough job, or else you wouldn't be able to see through our nefarious plans. Ah, but evidently “my side” hasn’t done a good enough job, or else you wouldn’t be able to see through our nefarious plans.

]]> By: Robin http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-59532 Robin Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:17:38 +0000 http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=1858#comment-59532 But if it`s not so boring and incomprehensible people would know what its about, and what it does to them . Better for your side that it muddies the waters. But if it`s not so boring and incomprehensible people would know what its about, and what it does to them .
Better for your side that it muddies the waters.

]]> By: Ralf Grahn http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-59266 Ralf Grahn Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:16:22 +0000 http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=1858#comment-59266 Nosemonkey, How can you say that the European Union is boring, when secrecy leads to speculation and heightened interest, plus conspiracy theories, and forbidden fruit is always more tempting than the stuff sold over the counter? :-) Incomprehensible? A harder charge to refute, I think, if you think of citizens not engaged within the machinery 24 hours a day, but the paternalistic intergovernmental EU of today was never designed to be comprehensible to them. It only says it was. Jon, It seems like Mandelson was targeted now because he returned from "exile", an example of fairly parochial thinking. Nosemonkey,

How can you say that the European Union is boring, when secrecy leads to speculation and heightened interest, plus conspiracy theories, and forbidden fruit is always more tempting than the stuff sold over the counter?

:-)

Incomprehensible? A harder charge to refute, I think, if you think of citizens not engaged within the machinery 24 hours a day, but the paternalistic intergovernmental EU of today was never designed to be comprehensible to them. It only says it was.

Jon,

It seems like Mandelson was targeted now because he returned from “exile”, an example of fairly parochial thinking.

]]> By: Jon Worth http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-59255 Jon Worth Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:07:49 +0000 http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=1858#comment-59255 You're right, but the culture is more inward looking than ever in Brussels after the Irish no vote. So don't hold your breath. I am rather annoyed that all of this has surfaced now - where were all the lazy journalists looking into this when Mandy was Trade Commissioner? And what are the other Commissioners actually up to? You’re right, but the culture is more inward looking than ever in Brussels after the Irish no vote. So don’t hold your breath.

I am rather annoyed that all of this has surfaced now – where were all the lazy journalists looking into this when Mandy was Trade Commissioner? And what are the other Commissioners actually up to?

]]> By: rz http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/2008/10/mandelson-and-eu-openness/comment-page-1/#comment-59251 rz Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:10:30 +0000 http://www.jcm.org.uk/blog/?p=1858#comment-59251 You are actually making a good point here. I was thinking in a similar direction when reading the Statewatch pdf. If more information would be available it is not unlikely thar a more vibrant discussion about EU matters would be possible! You are actually making a good point here. I was thinking in a similar direction when reading the Statewatch pdf. If more information would be available it is not unlikely thar a more vibrant discussion about EU matters would be possible!

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